044-Peter Muran MD: Naturopathic and Internal Medicine for Health and Longevity

How can we combine Internal medicine and naturopathic medicine for health and longevity?

Dr Peter Muran, at Longevity Healthcare Center has over 30 years of experience providing care to patients in a variety of settings. His philosophy is to blend internal medicine and naturopathic medicine to provide a functional medicine approach that looks for the root cause, which can be the source of many conditions. He  received his medical degree from Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara.

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Robert Lufkin 0:01
Welcome back to the health longevity secrets show with Dr. Robert Lufkin. How can we combine internal medicine and naturopathic medicine for health and longevity. Dr. Peter Moran at longevity Health Care Center has over 30 years of experience providing care to patients in a variety of settings. His philosophy is to blend internal medicine and naturopathic medicine to provide a functional medicine approach that looks for the root cause, which can be the source of many conditions. He received his medical degree from the University of Tottenham off Guada Guadalajara. Before we begin, I would like to mention that this show is separate from my teaching and research roles of medical school, which was the I which which I’m currently affiliated it is part of my continuing effort to bring quality evidence based information about health and longevity to the general public. Now, please enjoy this interview with Dr. Peter Moran. Aap Welcome to the show.

Peter Muran 1:02
Thanks, Rob. I really appreciate being invited to be a part of the show.

Robert Lufkin 1:07
Yeah, your your approach to healthcare is fascinating. I love it combining internal medicine with naturopathic medicine to create a sort of a functional medicine approach. And, and I can certainly relate to the Internal Medicine part because in my medical training, I started out in that in that specialty, many years ago, but But before we dive into that, maybe we could just step back, and you can tell our audience how you came to be interested in this fascinating area?

Peter Muran 1:43
Well, you know, it all kind of starts at the beginning of the university level for me, because at that time, I really was unsure of where I was going in life as most young men and women are. And so I decided to go into chemistry and mechanical engineering. So I’m basically a foundation of a chemist and an engineer who now goes to medical school, and the curiosity doesn’t stop there. So I find out that now I’m doing you know, more of a rotating internship, I’m in dealing with emergency medicine, I’m dealing with OB GYN surgery, and I kind of graph myself into a more of a geriatric Internal Medicine type of practice. Yet, what occurred is that I became the practitioner for the large senior centers. And these people were on just a whole list of medications, and nothing was working. So I became more of an using a naturopathic approach, looking at more of the metabolic pathways, looking more at the various hormonal systems, trying to understand how I could get past that barrier of what we call a leaky gut, or get past that barrier of not absorbing properly, the nutrients that you needed, which opened up the back in the mid 90s, opened up the use of intravenous therapies. So this whole self segwayed into what became known as functional medicine. And functional medicine is basically looking at the cellular level, trying to see what kind of an effect can you have on what we call a person’s environment, or the epigenetics of the genes that can actually make things work a little bit better for them. So you don’t need all these medications, which apparently, were not working for all the people that are stealing with.

Robert Lufkin 3:50
Oh, for sure. So, so internal medicine, naturopathic medicine and functional medicine, they really overlap in in certain ways, and share these common themes of maybe, like you say about metabolic pathways and in epigenetics, how do they how do they differ? How what’s the difference between internal medicine and naturopathic medicine and functional medicine?

Peter Muran 4:16
Well, I would say that to to work with the understanding of Internal Medicine, it’s like the ologies of medicine, you know, you have cardiology, you have gastroenterology, you have pulmonology, you know, you’re looking at the renal system, they’ve actually separated everything into different systems. And that’s how most what we call allopathic which are what MDS and various DEOs full practice is that’s that type of systematic medicine. But what the natural prep pass we’re able to bring into the the order of things is that everything is the To relate it, and that it’s interrelated at a metabolic level or it’s interrelated, on, you know, lifestyle, on what you eat and how you take care of yourself whether or not you’re sleeping properly, whether or not the GI tract is assimilating, as they say properly. So there’s all these different nodes of the matrix, which functional medicine was able to actually lay out was, like 15, different nodes that were are able to work together to strengthen all of the cellular growth or the cellular communication. And that’s what was so put aside, which is now being brought out more in everyday medicine, and everyday health. Because we are now looking at, you know, people who are taking care of themselves, rather than, you know, a perfect, for instance, of this is a COVID situation. Now, the reason why I just briefly bring this up, is that we found out that COVID, ID itself, dealt a lot with people who had generalized weakness in the respiratory or the GI tract or the cardiovascular. But he’s noticed that when COVID started, there are more people eating properly, and exercising than I had ever witnessed before. Because the message came down the line especially, I’m in California, Southern California, where people are actually able to get out and exercise and feel that strength and empower themselves, so as not to contract this nasty virus.

Robert Lufkin 6:50
Yeah, that’s such an important message. Yeah, and in going back, my background is also in traditional medicine, with my MD degree and I, I still remember in medical school, and the the first few decades of my career, learning about dementia and Alzheimer’s as one disease and then strokes as another disease and heart attacks as another disease and cancer as another disease and diabetes as another disease. And maybe, maybe we began to understand that strokes and heart attacks were related through the blood vessels, etc. But now, I think it’s, it’s, it’s been a revolution in the understanding to think that, that diabetes, and dementia and cancer, at least many forms of cancer are all linked by by these fundamental metabolic inflammatory conditions that can be influenced by it by our diet. And so it’s almost the traditional medicine is coming towards the naturopathic and functional medicine state. Some would say not not quickly enough, or not fast enough, because a lot of people, a lot of experts in the field still don’t quite accept all this or acknowledge all this is as much as as much as they should. What what do you think they agree on and what did they disagree on? And what what needs to change in these areas?

Peter Muran 8:31
You know, I really, I think that a lot of science and medical thought are all going in the same direction. And what that is, is that there is an underlying inflammatory process that is provoked, and is provoked by our environment. To give a simple example of this, kind of call out the canary in the mind, if you take a look at the graph of Roundup, and how roundup was just brought into the environment about maybe 30 years ago, and that the graph just has a certain a certain curvature to it, or a slope, you might call and then you

Robert Lufkin 9:17
maybe a deep tell it tell our audience, specifically what round Roundup is, and so they’ll they’ll know they may not be familiar with this

Peter Muran 9:27
side. Glyphosate is an herbicide. And what it does is that it actually is put on sprayed on vegetables and things like that. So that that the, the Weeds don’t interfere with the growth of the of the vegetable or the fruit. The interesting part is that they can’t get it out of the system. But what roundup did is that it was introduced into our GI tract, and when it was introduced in 20 GI tract, we did have a direct, a toxic effect to Roundup, but roundup itself actually killed off our natural bio. So what we naturally have in our gut that protects us, you know, there’s like, what is is some crazy numbers like 300 trillion bacterial cells, and there’s 330 1000 trillion human cells that make up the body. So we are actually a carrier for all of this bacteria. So what roundup did is that it actually knocked off or killed the natural biome, which formed what we call short chain fatty acids, which is food for the brain and food for the other parts of the body. And it actually went ahead and by doing that, it led to an inflammatory process. Now we know that in the use of Roundup or glyphosate, you’ll actually see these graphs. And if you were to put up Parkinson’s disease, it follows the same graph, as it does autism. So really, in my understanding, autism is an intra uterine disease that occurs, it’s like the canvas is all set up from the use of these various chemicals that we’re seeing from the outside having a direct influence. And if, for instance, we know that the a woman’s umbilical cord blood has 80%, higher chance of the mercury level that she’s carrying, and that is actually going right in through the placenta. So these are the things that we are actually seeing, that are influencing us as what we call the antecedent stage of fetal growth. And it is a it’s an inflammatory process that has overtaken a lot of what we’re seeing. We’ve seen the direct relationship between the use of substance use disorders, which cause anxiety and depression. We’re seeing it once again with the various neurological diseases with Alzheimer’s disease. And the idea is that Dr. Breath Adele breaths and came up with a brilliant protocol in managing the major parts of what causes not only causes Alzheimer’s, he’s actually shown and we’re actually doing to where we’re actually able to stop the Alzheimer’s deterioration and regress to where the brain is regenerating itself.

Robert Lufkin 12:52
Yeah, that’s, that’s remarkable. Yeah, Dale Bredesen will be in future episode on our program and we’re really looking forward to talking to him and hearing about this so this this inflammation I guess, before we leave, gli phosphates and Mercury just take home tips for for patients like phosphates they can minimize that with organic foods is that the best approach you’d use the best approach

Peter Muran 13:17
is basically working with organic food and and that includes you know, meats and fish and things like that are also something that needs to be on the food list, I mean, we do gain a lot of nutrients from that. So I hate to say that our farm raised fish is is very much out there but you also want to make sure whether or not they’re using organic feed for the fish organic feed for the animals and these are all because everything plays a part of it you know the the ecosystem has become so so delicate

Robert Lufkin 13:56
so it’s any any vegetables and fruit that we consume should be organic and then any meat products we should make sure that the the feed that they can the meat animals consume would would be organic to because the GLI phosphate can move up the food chain right from them.

Peter Muran 14:19
It’s just like if you’re in a in your market and your device swordfish, you’ll actually see a sign about pregnant women eating swordfish because of mercury levels because there are higher in the food chain and the mercury levels have have risen you know that’s a sub process.

Robert Lufkin 14:39
Yeah, and so the for the Mercury avoidance is mainly the fish certain the certain types of fish are the main sources that we need to avoid. Correct. Exactly. Okay. So so all these things contribute to to inflammation and what exactly do you mean by inflammation? Well, What is inflammation and kind of a layman’s term? In layman’s term,

Peter Muran 15:05
the best way to put on inflammation is that, let’s, let’s say that I’m going to use an analogy. And I’ve just come up with this analogy now. So it’s kind of off base, that you, you look at your finger, and you notice that there’s a little red spot. And you can’t notice it, you can’t figure it out too well. So you put on your glasses, and you look underneath the light. And now what you see is that there’s something that’s interfering in the area where that red spot is, that is causing the body to react. And it’s reacting beyond what one would normally expect, you know, if you touch it, it hurts, it’s red, you know, there’s some white stuff coming from it like an infection, you know, these are all signs of inflammation. So let’s go ahead and use that analogy in a different manner. So let’s say that somebody has sensitivities to certain foods. Now what they do is that they’ll eat those foods, and all of a sudden, they get bloating, they get belching, they the things foods, they’re not just being absorbed properly. So rather than have the food that you eat, being broken down and assimilated, and going through this tract, where now you have nutrition, it becomes more of a of food, that’s an that’s causing direct problem within the lining of the gut, to where now you get more of a what we call the wrong bacteria growing around this food, and that is an inflammatory process in of itself. And that inflammatory process, what it does is that now it triggers the immune system to produce more what we call a lot of people have heard about the pro inflammatory cytokines we heard about it during COVID Well, now we’re producing these pro inflammatory cytokines. Now these pro inflammatory cytokines are not just regional to the stomach, is being signaling in the stomach, but it’s going throughout the whole body. So all of a sudden, you know, someone will have something that oh, you know, I ate that, but now my sinuses are training or ate that now I feel well, headachy. You know, you’re actually feeling the the communication of the immune system that is signaling this inflammatory response throughout the whole body.

Robert Lufkin 17:50
Interesting. In the eye, remember with a po e for anytime there’s a bowI four, which of course is the, the the type of allele that increases our risk for Alzheimer’s disease. And anytime there’s a disease or a gene that persists in the population, it’s always asked, what is the possible survival advantage for this gene? Why, you know, why does it if it’s, if it’s only bad news, why doesn’t it get eventually, through evolution last, and I’ve heard the explanation with a bowI for that it actually is a pro inflammatory gene. And it it makes the brain much more inflammatory, which is a disadvantage in causing Alzheimer’s disease today, but in earlier times, when humans were exposed to parasites in the brain, it actually was a survival advantage because the brain would react and become inflamed with parasites and and knock them out. It’s interesting idea, but today, certainly, inflammation is is does much more harm than than good. Although, I guess with everything, it’s a balance. So I guess when when you’re talking about the bad kind of inflammation, it’s really chronic, low grade inflammation that builds up in our bodies, correct?

Peter Muran 19:25
Yes, you know, you brought up a very interesting point with the fo E. And what has occurred as our understanding and the evolution of understanding the the genetics, we now are actually seeing various situations to where somebody might have instead of what we used to call Big B, big B and Big B, little b, that they will have the big B and little b and that they can actually trigger the, what we call the variant or the environment trigger the variant. And that variant in itself can trigger more of an inflammatory response. So we’re seeing the genetics play a lot more important factors, then we’re actually able to work with within that. And that’s where I talk about the epigenetics. It’s the environment that we’re putting our genes in. And it’s actually able to work within that, to go ahead, and to you go back to what is considered more the wild type or the healthy type. So there is so much involved in what, what we’re able to do to settle these things down. And again, I refer to autism as the canaries in the mine, because children, you know, 30 years ago, autism was one in less than 10,000. And now it’s less than one and 50. And it’s just amazing, amazing disease process that has occurred to our children.

Robert Lufkin 21:04
Yes, it’s really remarkable. Well, to decrease inflammation, avoiding the pesticides, avoiding mercury, you mentioned, the gut, also protecting at what other things can individuals do to decrease their inflammation to improve their health?

Peter Muran 21:26
Well, you know, a lot of, like I had mentioned with the people just kind of picked it up naturally, what they did is that they started exercising, they started exercising, they started drinking filtered water, they started to stress reduce, you know, through meditations or through spiritual, and it’s all of these things that we have been able to just kind of calm ourselves down, and listen to our bodies, which are things that we could do naturally, which will go ahead and reduce the inflammatory process. And these are the things that will go ahead. And, you know, if you feel like, it’s so it’s so correct, that if you eat something, and you feel like, well, I should have eaten that, you’re right, you probably should write that down on the list, things that I should need. And then if you eat something, and all of a sudden, you feel energetic, you know, you you’re eating some like carrots, or something that’s all colorful salads, and, and you feel good, and everything is moving. And you don’t need that private sector, you don’t need that h2 blocker, because the food’s not going so well. You know, that is one of the biggest kicks I get out of this whole thing is that people have a history of gastro reflux disease. And they tell me, well, I need something to block the acid in my stomach, they go, Well, wait a minute, you need that acid, that acid is what’s going to break down the protein break down the fat, that’s what’s going to help get rid of, if you have excess yeast in your belly and the bad guys, why don’t we do this? Why don’t we get the GI tract where it’s moving. Rather than trying to stop the acid, let’s move it because maybe the problem lies is that things need to go south, instead of North and when you’re going north, it’s because of the acidity and you’re not breaking things down properly. So I’ll put somebody on something so simple as magnesium citrate, which is great for the muscles because you know, reduces spasm. And so they’re now they’re taking magnesium citrate, drinking some water, and things are, you know, you’re not getting diarrhea, things are starting to move. The next thing you know, they’re, you know, using digestive enzymes, which would you know, it, it has Beltane, HCl, it has acid, and therefore, God, I start to feel great, you know, at my digesting my ends and digesting these are the simple things that people could start to interact with their whole natural body that will just strengthen.

Robert Lufkin 24:12
Oh, yeah, yeah. What one of the things that’s always fascinated me was about, about stress. Let’s say that we know that chronic stress is bad, you know, it activates cortisol and does a lot of bad things to our body yet. On the other time, on the other hand, we see things like acute stress, like ice, ice baths, or hot saunas or even physical exercise is sort of an acute stress on the body. But it was interesting to me to to understand that that that there were really two forms of stress and one stress the chronic stress that never goes away is very damaging to our bodies and causes is all sorts of disease manifests many ways, whereas acute stress can actually be beneficial and activate, you know, hormesis, or can activate certain survival and longevity genes. And also, I’m wondering, do you think there’s a similar situation with inflammation is there is like chronic inflammation bad, but are there are there good kinds of inflammation that is short term acute, or is that a different model with inflammation,

Peter Muran 25:31
you know, it’s a very interesting thing that you should bring that up, is that one thing that has shown longevity is fasting. So if someone was able to get into more almost like a ketogenic type of diet towards the end of the day, or, you know, if the hours where they sleep, they’re actually regenerating blood, you know, brain cells, they’re actually helping to turn off that inflammation, which as you brought out is so detrimental, and everything just kind of settles down, and allows the body to, you know, they, you know, there are a lot of different, you know, spiritual sects that actually do do fasting. And they do it and it’s healthy, and it’s written about. So I think that you’re absolutely right, you know, there is the ability to bring in these areas sectors of living, to where you’re actually getting rid of the chronicity of something is the chronicity, where you’re actually getting the arthritic joints, it’s not something that you just had joint pain for a minute, is that you have it for a long period of time that causes distortion.

Robert Lufkin 26:48
Yeah, that’s interesting point and about the fasting, too, it’s, it’s probably, probably maybe the only thing that all the great religions of the world agree on. And fasting is good for us. And, and it’s, it’s funny in this in this particular summit interview series. Almost all the people I’ve spoken to that are experts in health and longevity, advocate fasting or intermittent feeding, to the extent that, you know, their patients can tolerate it as a way of improving their health. It’s, it’s one thing that everybody’s agreeing on more and more.

Peter Muran 27:25
I know, it’s such a simple idea, isn’t it? You know, and when you see it, it has tremendous effects on the gut, tremendous effects on the brain, and on the whole organ systems. You know, another interesting part is every device on briefly how cholesterol, cholesterol in itself doesn’t cause cardiovascular disease. What causes cardiovascular disease, is that when that cholesterol, that low density lipid is inflamed by an inflammatory process, and that inflamed, low density lit, that gets behind the lining of the artery, and now it can’t get out and what we call macrophages, you know, big eaters, they come in, they serve chewing on us so and they serve growing the plaque. That’s where the problem was, it is not the cholesterol itself. The idea is that no, you can’t eat Krispy Kreme Doughnuts, and think that you’re going to get away with you can’t have these sugar levels. And it’s so easy to going in and to make those changes and, you know, and it’s like, yeah, you know, you could do it. You know, I remember, I worked with a large Hispanic or other populations that just loved, you know, greasy food, and they just loved their corn tortillas. And their blood pressures were through the ceiling, they were on all types of medications. And I started working with them and basically said, Hey, why don’t we just stop grains? They go, No, I can’t do that. And no sugar? No, oh, no. And no dairy. You know, they, they took the challenge. I said, just do it for two weeks, they took the challenge that come back and their blood pressure was dropping, their cholesterol was dropping, we were able to reduce their medications, the diabetes was quicker. And then they would all come back with a smile in a month or two. And I go, how you doing this? Great.

Robert Lufkin 29:35
Wow, wow, that’s, that’s such it’s such an important concept that both both grains and and sugars and refined carbohydrates can can cause inflammation. What’s the mechanism for that? How do they how do they cause inflammation or what’s the How does that happen?

Peter Muran 29:54
Let’s let’s work with brains. What happened is a someone came up with this bridge An idea after the war that we’re going to feed the nation. So they came up with a, they use a a long grain that was genetically modified so many times that is unrecognizable. And the thing is that they never looked at the nutrition of it, they never looked at the nutrition, all I knew is that they could grow up fast and had a long shelf life. And what those grains do is that when there ground into powder, the readily convert over to sugar. So that’s the basis in sugar itself. You know, it’s an interesting part about sugar is that there are studies done on these children that would eat sugar cane. And if you ever saw these natural, you know, the the children in Hawaii are various like Fiji, that are just chewing on the shirking. Their teeth are white, they’re strong, there’s no signs of bacteria. Yet, if you use something like high density corn syrup, you just have all this decay that goes with it.

Robert Lufkin 31:14
Interesting. For the for the grains, some people are concerned about the gluten. Also, with gut health, is that something that you advise against? Or is it mostly just the grains converting to the sugars and carbohydrates?

Peter Muran 31:33
Well, I think you bring out a really good point. And that is, you know, you’re looking at an inflammatory process that’s occurring in the gut. And it is not only part of gluten, but again, we have genetically modified those grains to where they’re unrecognizable by the body. So I think it’s it’s a, it’s a grouping of a lot of different pieces that come in with this profile. And again, I think that the easiest way for someone to determine if they’re having trouble with this, is that especially your various forms of pasta that people don’t think pasta as a grain, but you know, as your similia, which is your people don’t get near the truth. So data comes out of Italy, there’s less problems with this gluten factor in this genetic factor than what we do see here in other parts. And then soy, you know, soy in itself can also be problematic. So there’s a lot of different foods that if you know the old saying keep it simple and sweet, you know, kiss that you basically are able to obtain nourishment, that is not actually inflammatory for the body. And if you think about what you’re eating, and whether or not it’s rather than just trying to fill your stomach, to where you feel full, if you eat something, and you think about it, your body will tell you whether or not if this is good for me or not. And this is something that you know, can go forward in helping to assimilate a healthy body.

Robert Lufkin 33:20
Inflammation is so, so common, who would have thought that brushing our teeth would be associated not only with getting rid of dental caries, but also minimizing our risk for heart disease, as you say, in the blood vessels there and, and even even dementia. You mentioned a dramatic response in your in your practice about hypertension and responding to to inflammation that way, what other types of diseases do you find reducing inflammation valuable for in your patients?

Peter Muran 33:59
You know, I deal with a large group of population that deals with substance use disorder. And what happens which is really, really became a very interesting part of my practice is that substance use disorder is a coping mechanism for anxiety and depression. So when you’re moving more and more into working with an inflammatory process, you’re actually working with a change in the neurotransmitters, which are now becoming more inflammatory, and also leading to depression. So what we do is that we will try to form a coping mechanism so as not to have the anxiety and the depression. And it’s so turns out that those coping mechanisms, unfortunately turn out to be addictive. So we now have formed an addiction To the coping mechanism for anxiety and depression, if we were able to just remove certain pieces or add certain pieces, we would not develop, again, the inflammatory response, which leads to anxiety or the inflammatory response, which leads to the overproduction of cortisol, which is trying to manage for that inflammation. But rather, we could calm things down in a natural method. And that’s where this is really is really an interesting profile.

Robert Lufkin 35:41
So improving the inflammation allows these individuals to better manage their substance abuse or addiction, is that right?

Peter Muran 35:52
Exactly. Because they don’t, they’re no longer managing the anxiety and the depression.

Robert Lufkin 36:01
So you, you help them by managing their lifestyle to reduce the inflammation. And then And then in addition, helping them with their substance abuse, but I find that combined to be a very effective method, is that right?

Peter Muran 36:18
Exactly. So now that you have someone who would go ahead, and let’s say they using a substance as a coping mechanism, rather, they’re out there on jogging, or they’re playing basketball with the kids, or they’re, you know, something like this is occurring, which is now decreasing an inflammatory process. You’re increasing increase health. And it’s a it’s a natural coping mechanism of dealing with stress.

Robert Lufkin 36:49
Wow. And part of your practice focuses specifically on this area, correct? It does.

Peter Muran 36:56
A lot of my practice is moving more into working with the work of Dale Bredesen with the Alzheimer’s disease, working more where I could I work with someone who, let’s say, is drinking a fifth of vodka a day for 10 years, I’m able to deactivate that within a day or two. And then by using the what we’re talking about here, go ahead and work with the epigenetics work with the various genes, bringing things back to a normal state, to where someone will be sitting there within a day, they’ll just, you know, it’s like the lights are on in somebody’s home. And they don’t want that anymore. They want they don’t want to go back to where they were, because now they’re actually thinking the recollected their personal lives.

Robert Lufkin 37:45
If patients want to access your program, do you? Do they need to be in a certain location? Or is it available by telemedicine what what sort of patients are able to access what you do?

Peter Muran 38:00
They can access it both through telemedicine, the best way in this treatment, this is not a treatment protocol where you have to sign up for 30 days or 60 days to be institutionalized. Now, this is really an kind of an almost an outpatient type of profiling. But you also, you know, one thing about addiction, addiction is both biological which is the medical section which we deal with. But you also have the psychological, which developed into this coping mechanism. And you have the sociological birds of a feather so you need people that are going to support them. So the group that I work with usually are the families and the loved ones are there supporting say, hey, you know, you got to do something, we, we’d love you. We’re here supporting you, and they’ll support and that’s really where it is. So you don’t really need this 30 Day inmate type of profiling where you lose your income you lose your job, you lose your family. That’s not you know, that’s kind of tough.

Robert Lufkin 39:09
One of the other speakers for this summit for this series is Joan Eflin, who specializes in in addiction for processed foods addiction. And looks at patients overcoming their need for processed food to the I know your practice is more focused on alcohol and substance abuse. Do you see processed food people at this time?

Peter Muran 39:41
No, I think that is excellent with what she’s talking about because it is so right on that the process food itself is an inflammatory stimulator. And people really look at trying to get that kick, but they could get the same through a natural, a natural mechanism, I think is fantastic. I’m looking forward to hearing her work.

Robert Lufkin 40:08
Yeah, yeah, she she tells me a great story that the tobacco industry when it was effectively being being shut down or decreased in size, they pivoted and purchased large processed food manufacturers that that whose names were all familiar. And then they use the same delivery channels, the way they delivered cigarettes, you know, in fast food stores to deliver high basically, they just switched the addiction from tobacco to, to process foods, but the great thing about processed foods is you can sell to children and you you have a much bigger market, because it’s not controlled at all, essentially, like tobacco was so it’s been a been a rebirth for these industries now.

Peter Muran 40:54
Oh, my gosh, what a she hit the nail on the head with, you know, distributing this to children as far as the various colors, you know, the favors and everything synthetic, this and synthetic that. I mean, it is such an incredible industry to a group of two little ones that, you know, are completely unaware.

Robert Lufkin 41:15
Yeah, and she even went through some examples of how they marketed like Marlboro cigarettes, certain packaging, certain colors. And then the same, the same company began marketing, processed foods to children, but they showing you examples, they look very much like the same packaging for the marbles, you know, and they work, you know, the same way just by stimulating your brain and everything. But that was, that was very interesting. But in your practice, then the patients can come essentially via telemedicine from anywhere in the world, they just go to the website to sign up then correct?

Peter Muran 41:53
They do. I’m really open as far as talking with people about this on the actual you know, the actual dealing with the addiction, they might have to come to the office a few times to actually work with that. But that’s no burden. I mean, a you know, I would work with a lot of professionals, a lot of executives who are just have a lot of risk. And they’re just so grateful that this opportunity is available for them. And I’m glad

Robert Lufkin 42:24
to be here. Yeah, yeah. Well, knowing knowing what you know about your your deep expertise about inflamed inflammation and sort of wise choices in lifestyle to what, how does this inform your own personal choices? If you if you wouldn’t mind speaking about it? What What decisions do you make for your, for your lifestyle choices to improve your health and longevity and decrease your inflammation?

Peter Muran 42:52
Let me give you a brief and I’m gonna keep it really brief story of myself, I’m the biggest guinea pig that I have you ever met. In 1990, I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis. And they wanted to take my whole column now, I changed with exactly what we’re talking about. As far as got rid of the grains, the sugar and the dairy, I was able to do well, until 2011, where I had a three way bypass, I had 100% blockage of the left main which is considered the Widowmaker. And then to was in then, in 14, I was diagnosed with colon cancer. And again, they want to take my home and I don’t know why they didn’t want to give me a semi colon. Everyone wants to take the whole colon. And I again, I went back into this process that I am able because I can now inter relax, enter act with people of what’s going on. And then of course, after having so many surgeries and things like that, you know, I think I lost some of my piano lessons along the way from the anesthesia and other things that were going on. So I actually recognize the genetics, the epigenetics in myself. And this is where I started now being able to follow what I am discussing with people. And you know, that was in 14 when the AR 15 When the surgeries so six years I don’t have any source sign of cancer or anything. So I’ve come quite a ways myself and listening to like going, Wait a minute, I don’t want to go through what is going to be offered here. Sometimes it changes well so

Robert Lufkin 44:53
what is your what is your diet look like or your exercise regimen?

Peter Muran 44:58
I exercise Unfortunately, it just came down with COVID and a bouncing out of it quickly. But that’s all right, you know, I have something on COVID on the website of how people can work with the vitamin D, that the quercetin and the C and the various parts. But basically what I do is that, I will go ahead and do a cardiovascular two to three times a week, and that includes riding a bicycle or being able to be in the water. I deal with working out with weights twice a week. And then I tried to keep myself in a meditative stress, you know, reduction environment, you know, you can’t completely not in medicine, can you completely remove yourself, but at least you’ll find pathways or segways of getting some kind of relief.

Robert Lufkin 45:52
Yeah. And, and I’m sorry about your COVID I hope, hope that passes uneventfully for you.

Peter Muran 45:59
Oh, it’s working. And I’m out of it. I’m out right now I’m trying to figure out, how am I going to deal with or dealt with Delta now? How am I going to deal with Lamma? You know, it’s just working with very variants that are coming through, there’s not much you can do that. Take care of yourself.

Robert Lufkin 46:19
Yeah, absolutely. And metabolic health to decrease inflammation improves your your chance with it at all as well. Yeah. How about your diet? Are you fasting other than the pesticides and mercury? Are there other things you avoid in your diet?

Peter Muran 46:39
You know, my diet is basically that Paleolithic ketogenic and evening time kind of diet. I do stay away from grains, I found that grains had been a big factor. I used to love lattes, I don’t use I don’t drink any kind of milk or cheese or anything. Because I find that that that is problematic for me. So I just kind of stay away from it. And I don’t have problems. So it’s kind of like walking the talk, you know?

Robert Lufkin 47:11
Yeah. Yeah. It’s that’s so powerful that common recurring theme of ketogenic diets and or ketogenic lifestyle choices. I remember hearing more and more of that any nutrients or supplements that you you take on a regular basis?

Peter Muran 47:29
Yes, I do. I do take on a regular basis things like koku Tim, I do work with Alpha Lipoic and acetyl cysteine. It helps the brain keeps the mitochondria crosses the blood brain barrier. I work with, you know, a lot of the fish oils I get I actually, you know, get fish, you know, cold water fish. So that’s really where those are coming from. Let’s see, vitamin C, of course, is a mainstay for me, you know, buffered vitamin C to where it’s like two grams twice a day. I use digestive enzymes. And I work with various, you know, what’s come up a lot is the the mycotoxins in the environments. I’ve been dealing a lot with mycotoxins with a lot of patients. So what happened is that it I needed to find out what type of probiotics would actually go ahead and break down the mycotoxins. So the various probiotics in of themselves, they produce something that break down the toxins, which is really interesting. And then of course, I work with things that will go ahead and help remove the various various biofilms that could be forming in one sinuses or in the GI tracts. These are the type of things that I work with. Wow, well,

Robert Lufkin 48:57
whatever you’re doing, keep it up, because you’ll look great. Doing a good job. Very good. How can our audience find you on social media? Or maybe you could tell us your the name of your website, tell our audience so they could go there.

Peter Muran 49:16
Right now, our website is undergoing some some work. And the name of the website is longevity healthcare.com. And if you’d want, you know, have all that information available for you. In there, I have a glossary, which talks a little bit about what we’re talking about. Just so to you know, bring awareness and know I’m open to questions and things like that. We’ll be doing podcasts becoming more informative, especially with various ways to manage the inflammation and to reduce stress.

Robert Lufkin 49:55
Yes, let’s keep me posted to and let me know when you When you launch your new podcast, and we’ll, we’ll make it available to the audience here as well. But they say, yeah, thanks so much Pete for taking time to talk with us today. It was it was really wonderful to spend an hour with you and get to know you a little bit more and learn about your practice and the exciting things that you’re doing with inflammation.

Peter Muran 50:24
I, I, as you can see that there’s a passion, you know, if this whole thing had developed from something we’re, you know, working with medicine and trained to understand it, then all of a sudden, seeing such results occurring, not only with myself, but with other people. I mean, I cannot tell you all the gratitude that that has received, and it’s just what keeps you going is really fun stuff.

Robert Lufkin 50:50
Yeah, this is such an exciting time to be in medicine. I mean, I’ve always loved love medicine my whole career. But I have to say, it’s never been more exciting now with the possibilities that we can take control of our lives through these lifestyle changes to to increase our health and longevity. It’s such a great time to be in this space.

Peter Muran 51:12
I do want to put a plug in for the institutional functional medicine. I think that they have really led the way in many ways.

Robert Lufkin 51:22
Right? And well, we’ll include a link to that also on the on the show notes if people want to find out more about that and get involved. So again, thanks. Thanks, Pete. And we look forward to talking to you again soon.

Peter Muran 51:35
I do too. Thanks a lot. Rob. Thank you so much for allowing me to be on your show.

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