We’ll be hearing from Liz Parrish, who is the CEO of BioViva Corporation using gene therapy for longevity. Dr. Dobri Kiprov, who will be discussing plasmapheresis and his recent article in geroscience on how that affects human longevity, Bill Faloon and Bill Andrews will also be speaking from the Life Extension Foundation and Sierra Sciences. And finally, Dr. Sandra Kaufmann will be discussing her new book on the Kaufmann protocol. And also yours truly, we’ll be discussing rapamycin briefly as well. And now, please enjoy this sneak preview of RAADfest 2022.
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- 00:19 – Introduction to Speakers
- 02:58 – Longevity
- 05:07 – RAAD Fest
- 10:42 – Therapeutic Plasma Exchange
- 12:38 – Alzheimer’s Disease
- 13:20 – Plasmapheresis
- 15:10 – Rapamycin | mTor
- 17:46 – Cardiovascular Disease
- 21:04 – Healthspan & Lifespan
- 28:34 – Mitochondrial Transition Pore
- 31:40 – Gene Therapy
- 51:55 – Best Choice Medicine
- 59:06 – BioViva
- 1:03:21 – Psychological Stress
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Robert Lufkin 00:02
Welcome back to the health longevity Secret show and I’m your host, Dr. Robert Lufkin. Today we get to hear from six world authorities on longevity, who will be speaking at the upcoming red fest festival in October 2022. Today they’re going to preview their presentations with a five or 10 minute discussion about the topics that they will be talking about at the upcoming festival. We’ll be hearing from Liz Parrish, who is the CEO of BioViva Corporation using gene therapy for longevity. Dr. Dobri Kiprov, who will be discussing plasmapheresis and his recent article in geroscience on how that affects human longevity, Bill Faloon and Bill Andrews will also be speaking from the Life Extension Foundation and Sierra Sciences. And finally, Dr. Sandra Kaufmann will be discussing her new book on the coffin protocol. And also yours truly, we’ll be discussing rapamycin briefly as well. And now, please enjoy this sneak preview of RAD fest 2022.
Joe Bardin 01:13
Welcome to our rad fest 2022 Sneak Peek Webinar. My name is Joe Bardin. I’m the Communications Director for rad fest. And we are really happy to be connecting with you in this way. This is a little bit like rad fest already. Yeah, we’ve got some of our top top people in Super longevity and longevity with us today are going to give you just a taste of what they’re going to be presenting at RAD fest. It really is a it’s a fantastic program that we’ve got this year. I’m really excited about it. I’m looking forward to hearing the latest. There is a lot happening in this space, there’s a lot of advancement going on. It’s inspiring to know it’s happening. It’s encouraging to know it’s happening. And it’s also important to know what we can do right now for our health and our longevity. And you’re going to be hearing a bit about that today. And we want you to register for rad fest, what
James Strole 02:21
can we say? Absolutely. That’s the key. That’s the key.
Joe Bardin 02:25
We want you to be there with us. It’s going to be really informative, and actually inspiring to and you make it more inspiring for us. Yeah, yeah, there’s a communal experience. You know, most tribes of people have a communal experience around what’s important to them. Right. And there is a communal experience around longevity and super longevity. That’s, that’s important. It’s important to us, it’s important experience that it’s important to experience you’re not alone. It’s important to experience, get other people’s viewpoints, to share insights, share what works also share what doesn’t work, or in a revolutionary moment in longevity. And it’s not particularly programmatic. So we don’t always know exactly how to do what. And there’s nothing quite like conversing with other people to get clear on what’s available and what’s appropriate for you. So this is my pitch to you. To encourage you to register for rad fest. And I want to let you know also right now there is a special offer, which is for every regular registration at RAD fest, you can add on as many guest registrations as you want for $200 Less, that’s for what we call the activist package. So you can get in on that right now. And for every person who registers at the regular price, which I believe is 851, you can you can register for $200 less than that and you can register as many people as you want. For that you can start a business, you can start a multilevel marketing business if you want and take that money and pocket it will be very happy if you do that. But anyway, take advantage of that offer. So to get us going here, I want to introduce my fellow colleagues here. James stroll is the director of the Coalition for radical life extension, which puts on rad Fest and the co founder of people unlimited and his partner at people. Limited is the co founder, Bernadine, and how are you guys doing today?
James Strole 04:50
Great. Thank you. So thank you for that opening. Yeah, it’s important is important for us to really be active with each other. So we’re excited about getting back together.
Joe Bardin 05:00
Yeah, super. So you want to take a minute to, to tell people like what your vision of RAD fest is. And and for those people who don’t know? Yeah, go ahead. Okay.
Hi, everybody, I have to tell you, I am really privileged to be with all of you today. And, of course, I’m excited about rad fest, we’re going to hear so about so many things that we haven’t heard about yet some new innovations, innovations that I am really, really looking forward to hearing about. I like being alive. And I think we have a right to like that. I think that we’re moving now all of us together to bring about our society. That gives us more and more time to enjoy who we are. So I’m really looking forward to being with all of you, and rad says it’s going to be a most amazing time together.
James Strole 06:02
Yeah. Beautiful Burnie. Firstly, I want to thank everybody, all the presenters for being on here with us. We’re going to have a great time today. And I’m looking forward to be with you at RAD fest, of course, and all the listeners, thank you for being on. We want to be with you live, we’ve been, as you many of you know, we’ve been virtual for a couple years, we want to be with you live in San Diego at RAD fest, because there’s so much happening. And even though in many areas, there’s been no stopping point. For a lot of people in this row because of pending. But this progress and super longevity has not stopped during this whole time. So and so much more information and knowledge has come out that we want to share with you, you’ll be able to apply this information. It’s not just knowledge that but you’ll be able to experience hands on different applications, different innovations that you will be able to use to stay healthier, longer to be to be not only live longer, but live with vitality and strength, right. But it’s very important to get for all the listeners that you can come in line like this. And this is great, I’m glad we have the internet. But you don’t you don’t learn as good with as being in person. When you’re in person. There’s a connection that happens between people of sharing information and inspiration that actually increases the learning process, and enables us to get to where we want to get as far as bettering our health strengthen us in every way. And also the inspirational part of that, that we need to be inspired daily to keep moving for our lives to not let anything discourage us or set us back. And that’s what Bernie and I do on that level. And we’re actually very grateful and excited to do that. We’re getting a lot of great comments from people about their gratefulness for our role in this to of inspiring people to keep going to not not give up on their life’s at any level, to really know that there’s a power within us that we have to tap into in our own bodies, to have that string moving and help create these new innovations and to support all of our great scientists and doctors that, like we have on today to keep moving and to move with a with a vastness and their own person to create what we need to create in our time, we all want to live, we don’t want to pass this on to another generation, okay, we need a way to stop aging and death now. And whether you want to live on limited lifespan or just as long as you can really healthy, all these options need to be on the table. And they are. So we’re excited about really what we’re really looking forward. And because being a pro person, we haven’t seen a lot of you that will be coming to rad fest for a couple years. And I’m looking forward to meeting a lot of new people who are listening and have this feeling in your own body of wanting to stay alive. It’s a magnificent thing. I mean, you wouldn’t be listened to this if you’d have some real feeling about wanting to live longer and better. And that’s what we’re about. And we’re really the only event in the planet that really focuses on staying alive and unlimited lifespans. So we’re excited to be with you, like I said today, and we’re looking forward to being present with you at RAD Fest in San Diego. So, so register for this event, because it’ll be the bet you’ll be so happy again. Thank you.
Joe Bardin 09:14
That was great, Jim. Yeah, we want to amplify, by one amplify what we’re about. And we want to amplify with you. So today that we are going to hear from now. And we’re going to hear just five minutes. These guys could talk for weeks, months and years on their topics, I’m sure and they’re going to speak for five minutes just to give you a taste of what they’re going to what they’re going to bring to rad fest. Our first presenter is Dr. Kiprov who is a Harvard trained immunologist, and he is internationally recognized pioneer in the field of Rhesus which is we also We’ll call that therapeutic plasma exchange. He has more than 100 publications on the subject and a pending patent. Dr. Kiprov has served two terms on the board of directors of the American Society of Ephesus, and is currently a member of the Board of Directors of the International Society for Ephesus. So please welcome Dr. Dobri Kiprov.
Dobri Kiprov 10:24
Thanks, Joe. It’s a pleasure to be here. And some of you who are members of RAD and have visited some of the previous meetings may remember that six or seven years ago, in one of the first meetings of Rob, I introduced the concept of using therapeutic plasma exchange for extending healthspan and eventually lifespan as well. Since then, we have made considerable progress. In the meantime, we have published several papers in prominent journals describing what we do and why we believe that what we do is the correct approach. In these papers, we also were able to elucidate some of the mechanisms of aging, as you probably know, and some of you probably feel the process of aging is very complex. And we have been able to identify new new lines of understanding of how aging really ages us and makes us less comfortable, less strong. And can we possibly prevent the acceleration of this of these issues. I will discuss also the translation of an animal model that was developed by the family of Irina and Michael Conboy when they were in Stanford, if so, animal model called arbery, Aziz. And we were able to translate that into humans, which is not an easy task. And we went through a variety of hurdles, but eventually we got it right. And it is worth mentioning that we change our protocols and our approach as we move along. And we learn and we learn every day. There are new things that we implement, there are new things that come from other scientists that we implement. So the process is moving. And I will introduce you to what these advances have been in the longevity field, and also in the field of age related diseases such as Alzheimer’s disease. We have progressed from anecdotal reports of success, not very few people report on success. There are reports of success, and we have extended that into clinical trials, both uncontrolled as well as controlled. I would like to acknowledge some foundations that have helped us through this process, namely the foster Foundation, which has been very generous for us and continues to be generous. And I may also show you some videos of how plasmapheresis works, because it’s a complex procedure, we will discuss the possible side effects of the procedure. And we will answer all your questions. I know that I have more time but I’ll stop here and give somebody else do. podium. Thank you.
Joe Bardin 13:46
Excellent, thank you. Dr. Cuprum. Yeah, it’s it’s a big, very, really interesting to hear what the latest is in the therapeutic plasma exchange. I don’t think we’ve heard much about that recently. So that’s right. That’s a really good area. All right. Yeah. Our next presenter, Dr. Robert Lufkin is a clinical professor at USC Keck School of Medicine. He served as a full professor of both UCLA David Geffen School of Medicine, and USC, and with a current academic focus on the Applied Science of longevity. He has done some really interesting work with rapamycin and data and let’s just bring on Dr. Robert Lufkin. Oh, thanks.
Robert Lufkin 14:31
Thanks so much. I’m really excited to be presenting today a little bit and then at RAD fest about the latest information about what is arguably the single most powerful longevity drug known. Interestingly, rapamycin was discovered in the in just the second half of the 20th century in a remote tropical island called Rapa Nui, and this led to the discovery of one One of the most important protein sense sensing proteins throughout all of biology. And it’s has the simple name, Tor, which stands for target of rapamycin or mTOR, sometimes which is mechanistic target of wrapping up mice. And this, this mTOR is conserved throughout plants and animals all the way from yeast to human beings. It’s a fundamental part of every cell practically. Now, what is mTOR? Do there’s growing evidence that mTOR drives inflammation and also insulin resistance and metabolic dysfunction, which contribute to the chronic diseases of aging. And this also, as we’re going to see will affect longevity. Now, the key point is, rapamycin is a very specifically targeted drug that targets one complex of mTOR and turns it down to turn up autophagy and turn down inflammation. So what happens when we turn down mTOR with rapamycin? Well, first of all, let’s look at the phenotypes of aging. Everybody recognizes maybe gray hair or wrinkles or, you know, maybe loss of hair with aging. mTOR when applied in animal models, as well as some human models, actually reverses the slows down and reverses some of the skin changes of aging with collagen and baby’s basilar membrane and that’s after just a few weeks of use. In fact, the FDA just approved a rapamycin cream in April for another applications separate from wrinkles, but it will almost certainly be used as an off label use in this area. Other phenotypes of aging periodontal disease 70% of 70 year olds have periodontal disease, rapamycin not only slows down periodontal disease but reverses it in the in the animal model it’s now being used with in a human trial. Also hearing loss, ovarian failure, commonly known what we call menopause. rapamycin also works and slows that down and reverses it but but wait a minute, those are the phenotypes of aging. That doesn’t determine longevity, nobody dies of wrinkles or or even periodontal disease usually or menopause. What What determines death and longevity? Well, those are the chronic diseases and the big three we’ll be talking about are cancer, Alzheimer’s and cardiovascular disease. So what happens when rapamycin is applied to these particular diseases? Well, first of all cardiovascular disease one of the earliest FDA indications for rapamycin is to coat cardiovascular stents which are placed in the coronary arteries when you have a heart attack that are occluded and it reverses that as far as cancer there are two FDA indications of rapamycin that specifically target cancer metastatic renal cell cancer and, and one other cancer there’s a lot of evidence that it reverses that as well or or it has a has a positive effect on it and Alzheimer’s disease to as well. There’s an effect rapamycin that we’ll be talking about at RAD fest that improves the biomarkers of of Alzheimer’s disease and there’s now a clinical trial a small pilot study at the University of Texas with humans with Alzheimer’s disease. But that’s those are the chronic diseases. What about longevity itself? Is what’s the evidence there? Well, human evidence for longevity is very difficult just because the lifespan but there is a gold standard longevity trial from the National Institutes of Aging called the interventions testing program where mice which live about three years are given drugs, different drugs and medicines, anything you can even we can even suggest them they’ve been given resveratrol Metformin, curcumin, even green tea, and there’s no effect on longevity on that but when this gold standard longevity trial was these animals were given rapamycin they rapamycin was the only drug that consistently repeatedly and sometimes dramatically prolong the lifespan in these animals in this so I can’t wait to talk more about this fascinating subject can really get into it at the upcoming rad fest meeting in October and hope to see you all there
Joe Bardin 19:38
perfect, I think you did that too. Within three seconds. That’s fantastic. And listen, another benefit of RAD fest is we will not freeze on you. So we had a little bit a moment freeze. Aren’t you tired of brilliant people freezing on Zoom when you come to rad fest? There won’t be any. There won’t be any freezing going on and die Dr. Lufkin also is drawing this these insights from data, which is very interesting collection of data on rapamycin that I don’t think has been available before. And that’s where that Dr. Ruff Lufkin is gonna be talking about at RAD fest. I just wanted to add that as well. Our next speaker, Dr. Bill Andrews is the founder and CEO of Sierra Sciences. And he holds he is I got to decide which part of his bio I’m gonna read to you. There’s so much good stuff. He’s the inventor of 50 Plus, US patents issued on telomerase, and the author of numerous scientific research studies published in peer reviewed scientific journals. And he’s formed a team of scientists who dedicated their time to discover telomerase. inducers is one of the leading thinkers and researchers on telomerase. Dr. Bill Andrews.
Bill Andrews 20:57
Thank you very much. I’m also very excited to be speaking at RAD fest again this year. So far, we’ve heard both healthspan and lifespan mentioned today. And we always hear that healthspan is more important than lifespan. I agree with that. Because there’s none of us want to live a long time, if we’re all going to be sitting in hospital beds, if it’s tubes sticking out of us, we got to have a higher quality of life t. So health healthspan is very important. But nevertheless, we don’t want lifespans limiting our health spans. And that’s something so we have to look at both problems, we have to figure out ways to solve both problems, not just the problems that are eliminated or our health plans, but also the problems that are living in our lifespans. And dealing with healthspan alone is not going to provide us with super longevity. And that’s one of the things that I want to focus on. And then I want to make clear, whenever I’m talking about aging, I’m always talking about both healthspan and lifespan. So rad Fest this year, like other years, I’ll be talking about a truly bonafide barrier to our lifespan, that might in theory also be a barrier to our health care. But it’s still just a theory. And that is teal and Nolan, have been talking about telomere length for a long time. But I haven’t really emphasized before how important it is to our the barrier of our lifespan. And it’s not a theory, it’s actually a fact that telomeres actually affect lifespan, anybody working with human cells in a petri dish knows that the lifespan of their cells that are working are very limited by lifespan, they reach a limit called the Hayflick limit, because of telomere shortening other other things that can bring senescence on to Hayflick. And that is also the same as senescence, but it’s kilometers is a major thing that absolutely does bring on senescence, and does limit our lifespans. I mean, a lot of people do find this kind of hard to understand because of mouse data. There’s a lot of mouse data that might contradict that. But I want to make it clear that mice do not age completely. There’s a lot of similarities, but they don’t age completely like humans do. And major difference is their children their biology. And, you know, I can’t exactly explain why we we probably have to talk with the gods of evolution to figure out why they made such a difference between humans and mice, but it is it is a major difference. So at RAD Fest this year, I will be discussing what telomeres are, are discussing why they affect lifespan and health and possible prospects. And I’m going to be showing why telomere length gives us a theoretical maximum lifespan of only 125 years. And it’s none of us actually live that long because we have we don’t have the perfect genetics or the perfect life the perfect lifestyles. But but if we did with our lifespans would still be limited. So 125 years because of telomeres shorten. And Fiona shorten can also limit further our, the lifespan of our organs, our tissues, a lot of the major diseases that we suffer from are caused by telomere shortening, causing senescence of various tissues of cells and various tissues and organs of our body. And I also want to explain why there’s absolutely nothing we can do about that yet. Everything you hear about right now that we can do a lot of good things to extend our health span. I want everybody to pay close attention to them, but but there none of them are going to actually help us move beyond this theoretical maximum that’s caused by too short. I’m going to be explaining how my company’s here sciences is doing research. was to try to figure out a way to prevent this major obstacle. Short, we’re doing it two different ways. One is telomerase gene induction, I forgot to mention that there is an enzyme called telomerase, it’s naturally thought inside of ourselves, that actually does keep our telomeres from shortening and our reproductive cells. So we just need to figure out a way to get that telomerase enzyme to work in all of our cells. And we’re using what is called telomerase gene induction, and also telomerase gene therapy to solve that problem. And during the, during the presentation, I also want to talk about the obstacles that are standing in their way of actually getting this research done. But my mission is, I hope that we all live healthy and fully alive, especially myself for 500 years. And I’m hoping that that’s one thing that rad fest can help us all with. Thank you very much.
Joe Bardin 25:59
Thank you, Bill. Great to hear from you. Our next presenter is Dr. Sandra Kaufman, good to have Dr. Sandra Kaufman back with us. She is her day job is I think that’s a fair way to call it Chief of Pediatric anesthesia at the Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital. But many of us know Dr. Kaufman’s Kaufmann protocol where she has helped start initiating a more programmatic approach to anti aging and age reversal. And she has a new book, which means she has a lot of new ways for us to add or take charge of our longevity. So here is Dr. Sandra Kaufman.
Sandra Kaufmann 26:46
So thank you, everyone. I like everyone else I am excited to be coming to read fest, it is really going to be nice to actually see people and talk to people, because that’s where collaboration and excitement grows. And as a small caveat, I recently went back to my hometown. People my age are our age are ready to retire, see their grandkids. They’re obese, they’re losing their hair. And I felt like odd man out. So coming to rad fest means that I won’t be the odd man out anymore. Where with people with similar thoughts and you know, plans for the future rather than just dying. So anyway, caveat over. The second thing I want to do is use this as an advertisement. So as as advertised, I don’t know if that’s in focus or not. new book is out and available. And thank you very much to people unlimited, and to bill for reading it, or at least I hope you read it. And I’m not writing a very nice quote on the back. But what it is, it’s 28 new agents took me three years to do this. So this is very researched. And along the way, there’s a whole lot of new scientific things that we need to be thinking about on a cellular level. Because there’s so many things I’m actually having trouble trying to figure out what to talk about it breakfast. So I was also going to the third thing here, the goal was to crowdsource so I was hoping I was going to list a few items, and then everyone can email me and tell me what you want to know more about. So at this point, options include a deep dive into three or four very cool agents. For example, phi Sutton is absolutely amazing. And part of a daily ritual now lactoferrin spermidine, there’s just a variety of just amazing, amazing compounds that are now available. To we can talk about cellular processes, I took a deep dive into the mitochondrial transition poor, that we really have to get under control over the course of time, we have to control DNA stability, DNA protection, that sort of thing we need to figure out is well I know here everyone is protecting or activating rather their sirtuin ones, we’ve never really talked about step two and three and step two, and six. So that is another thing that we really need to take care of that I talked about. And then lastly, I’ve just been absolutely obsessed with the pathway of glycation. I’ve decided that they’re seven, maybe eight, because I may throw an extra step in their ways to actually defeat glycation, both with pharmaceuticals, diet changed, and then nutraceuticals. And I believe that’s probably what I’m going to be focusing on, as well as the introduction of a few agents that we can use in our armamentarium for that, just as an example, one of my new favorite things is something called lactoferrin. lactoferrin is a very basic simple molecule comes from breast knock of mammals. And the cool thing about it actually, well many things, but number one, we’ve all had it right we all we all mammals, so we all drank it theoretically at some point. And it’s called lactoferrin because it carries iron. But what it actually does is when it’s not carrying iron, it bonds to AGS. If you picture the molecule it looks a bit like a barbell. So there’s one glob on one side, one glob on the other look crossbridge in the middle, and it actually can take out two molecule Those of agencies that are preformed, so it’s amazing, I can consider an ag e sponge. And it does a variety of other things, but it’s just absolutely cool in the armamentarium against glycation. Anyway, there are so many things that we could talk about at RAD fest, that I’m going to leave this up to the crowdsourcing people out there. Please email me everyone has my email. Tell me what you want to hear about and I will give it give it a go and give you all the information I can.
Joe Bardin 30:31
That’s great. So you get to you get to customize your your content at RAD fest. Yeah, that’s really cool. And fortunately for me, I take lactoferrin so I feel very you know, like with it, right. Our dogs take lactoferrin even are doing great. We tell you, they are we could talk about our dogs.
James Strole 30:56
We should bring them in showed everybody like
Joe Bardin 30:57
we were like those dog people that spend all this time talking about their dog. Okay, are. So that’s great. So give, give Dr. Kaufman that feedback. And we’ll see where we’ll see where that lands. Our next presenter is Liz Parrish, who founded and serves as CEO of bio, Viva sciences, USA. And we know her as a great, great advocate for gene therapy and for advancing pragmatic uses of gene therapy, not decades down the road, but right now, and here is Liz Parrish.
Liz Parrish 31:33
So I guess you probably know what I’m going to talk about. So yeah, so during my presentation, I’ll be talking about gene therapy, past, present and future. Of course, the present is probably more interesting than you think these days. And we’re going to talk about that we’re going to talk about a little research around gene therapy that we’ve been embarking upon and are in the midst of but we do have one paper out about it. Now, I’m going to talk to you about the importance of patient data, and sharing that data so that the longevity community can actually work on that data and see what’s working for you and what isn’t working for you as we work towards precision medicine. And then finally, I’m going to talk about the importance of patient access. And an initiative that I’m working on with at least one other person in this group today, and soon to be many others, to push towards a new legal system in which people could get access to new technology that isn’t yet in clinical trials for patients, especially who are terminally ill or have no other treatment for their condition right here in the United States or potentially in the country that you’re in right now. So we’re going to be pushing towards a global movement towards that, and I’ll talk more about that. How that might benefit you and what you need to do to ensure that that happens. And I think that’s about it.
Joe Bardin 33:08
Excellent. Okay. Great. And I think there’s a if I’m not mistaken, I think there’s a specific focus on dementia with gene therapy. Is that right, Liz?
Liz Parrish 33:17
Oh, yeah, of course, that is what I’m going to be one of the big initiatives that we talk about, is a new fundraiser that we’re doing for the treatment of 10 patients in a investigator led clinical trial that will hopefully reproduce the data that we assessed with Integrative Health Systems about, well, almost two years ago now that started but we’ll be coming up on second year data soon. So yeah, this is really exciting. So not only are we going to be talking about patient access in the United States in the future, we’re gonna talk about getting people access to dementia treatment in within the next year.
Joe Bardin 34:00
Yeah, so that’s real, real breakthrough stuff. We’re excited about that. Our next presenter and final presenter is Bill falu, who’s co founder of The Life Extension Foundation and has dedicated his life to identifying medicine and technology aimed at enabling people to live longer in good health with no upper longevity limit. Here is Bill falloon.
Bill Faloon 34:24
Good afternoon group. I’m going to be giving the opening keynote speech at Red best. That’s on Thursday evening, the day that rad fest opens. And there are more topics to discuss in that 55 minute talk, as we’ve been saying all along than what that time permits. In fact, what’s happened over the last 12 months is that there have been more initiatives and more advances in the field of age delay and age reversal than any other 12 month period in human history that I’m aware of more advances and I’m going to describe as many It knows as I can, everything that’s happened since last year’s rad fest last year’s rad fest around October 1 2021. Well, that next 12 months over the next 12 months, huge, huge advances across the board across a wide range of disciplines as to how we can slow down aging, and how research is doing it in the laboratory to put it in reverse. And of course, what we want to do is apply that to humans. So I’m going to talk about everything has happened since read best as quickly as I can, and then move in to what people need to do today to avail themselves to this technology. And one is what is an optimized diet. That’s something has been controversial for probably over 100 years, but the pieces have come together in a way that we can say for certain if you eat a certain way, and we’re not talking about anything radical, but just change your dietary habits in a minimal way, you can add perhaps eight or more years to your average lifespan, those eight or more years, then buy you access to the future when Gene therapy and CRISPR and all kinds of other technologies emerge to enable you to live a lot longer. We’re looking at transcription factors at this point that reprogram old cells back into youthful cells as a way to regenerate old people. And it’s working in the laboratory model in March 2022. An announcement was made on the Salk Institute where they were able to induce partial systemic age reversal and a group of mice. And those mice, they have all the indicators of much more useful structure and function and tissues measured, it may worldwide headlines, and yet it disappeared after a day or two because of what we all the war and politics and other issues that distract people from what’s happening. But what’s been happening, as I said, last 12 months, more advances, more initiatives being launched to gain total control over aging in our lifetime. This is what the science is heading towards. And if people understand that they would pack rat fest, like they do a Rolling Stones concert, there should be 50,000 people there to listen to that. Because when I think of the older people suffering needlessly, because they just don’t know about simple techniques that they can use to buy themselves time now, because taking advantage of future technology is our ultimate goal. There are clinical trials initiating, some of them are going on right now clinical trials that aim to replicate what’s been happening in animal models to see what happens to elderly humans, are we able to take an elderly human and transform them back in time that is being worked on, I may be able to report findings rad fest, if not, you’ll get an email in next month or two to see if that’s working. Joe, I can’t really read that you tell me but I’m running out of time. Okay, 39 seconds. And I’ll conclude my talk at Red fest with more data about the potential of living forever, more and more established. People are talking about that. In fact, more people were last 12 months have talked about the prospect of immortality than any other time in history. That’s because the data is pointing towards Unlimited, healthy human lifespans moving forward. So I can only tell you at conferences, that’s where I’ve made my connections to grow life extension into what it is. And I am now running out of my five minute allotment. I’ll be happy to answer any questions in the group. Thank you very much. Wow, good job.
Joe Bardin 38:36
That was really good. Everybody did a good
James Strole 38:38
job. I’m impressed and
Joe Bardin 38:40
true to form billions every second every SEC very, very efficient. So. So yeah, thank you, everybody, for running through very briefly what you’re going to expand upon at RAD fest. And now we want to give our panel a chance to talk about something other than their own presentation that they’re looking forward to at RAD fest. So who who wants to just you could just chime in?
Bill Faloon 39:08
Well, I think what people should really think about is the unexpected, they may run into something at RAD fest that they would have no idea that couldn’t even imagine it exists. Someone gives them that tip. And I think everyone here has heard of something called melatonin. We all I heard about that at a conference in 1991. A NASA engineer asked me about it aren’t asking why we weren’t selling it. I said I think it’s illegal number one, and I’ve never even heard of it. Number two, and I looked into it. And while all that data by 1000 published studies on melatonin, we brought it out the whole industry brought it out some people sleep better with it. It helps to prevent cancer, slow aging, all kinds of good stuff. I never only learned about melatonin, nor would rest of the world and I know I’ve heard it in person at an immortality conference in 1991. So just a reason to attend right At best, but no great speakers great information we know being disseminated plus interacting with people one on one, and finding out maybe a solution to a chronic problem or a way to live a lot longer.
Right? Yeah. That’s one of the things it’s so amazing about Red City, because they’re this is an exhibit that you can, you can take advantage of, you can talk with the people who have the exhibits. It’s really fun. And it’s exciting. And there’s a lot of interaction between the people, which is really
James Strole 40:36
good. Yeah, absolutely. That’s one of the great things about rad fest is we, we don’t do breakouts. In other words, we all we set the stage for there to be a full on experience, all of us having the same experience at the same time, which, which creates better interaction we found. So in other words, the when they did to the RAD fest stage is on the main stage is rad see the exhibit hall is closed, and then vice versa. So everybody’s having when we’re in the main hall, we’re on in there, and then we move into the exhibit hall. And it not only gives a lot of traffic to the exhibitors, of course, but enables us to interact in both arenas, right, a great way. I mean, the speakers, we encourage all of our speakers to go into the exhibit hall, and they do, and there’s a speaker’s visitation section. And, of course, it will be Serbians, you know, wine and hors d’oeuvres, and these are these situations to for people. But they’ll also be able to experience what we call the marketplace of the future. People who are marketing products and innovations that profit from life rather than death. And, you know, we were talking earlier about this that numbers matter, everybody. So bring your guests bring your bishop at RAD fest, we’re moving to make an impact in the world, the more people we get together in one arena, the more attention we draw, we have goals to eventually have 1000s of people together already, we’re drawing press from all over the world, we’re gonna have a lot of press there. And that helps get the word out. Because when when Dr. Coplin was speaking about going back to her hometown and seeing all these people who were aged, you know, they and she was such a contrast, my heart goes out to these people, it’s because they don’t have the information. Well, they don’t know, this is what Bernie and I this is one of our big goals is to get this information out to the public, then they can make a choice themselves. But my heart goes out to them because so many people just don’t know. And so I think we all need to be passionate to get this information out. And the biggest one, the biggest ways is to have these increase our numbers get more and more people there draws it attracts the media, they get the word out attracts with word of mouth. And so then we create what we call that critical mass. So that’s been our goal from the start, is starting rat Fest in 2016. And has it been for the pandemic we’d have been in, you know, bigger, lot bigger numbers already. But but we are growing and we want to encourage everybody to help us do that. The one best way you can do it as be there have any feeling at all about staying alive, be there and help.
Joe Bardin 43:12
Other things other things that presenters are looking forward to at RAD fest? Yeah,
Robert Lufkin 43:15
I’m really, I’m really looking forward. echoing what Jim said about just getting everybody in the same room, all these great minds, and also the participants as well asking those those thought provoking questions that I hadn’t thought of. But just, you know, I just ordered Sandra’s new book from Amazon. I can’t wait to get it. I’m sure I get to have a lot of questions for her and Dr. Keith probs. I read your new article on geroscience. That just dropped in. I’ve got a bunch of questions for you. And now we’ll, we’ll be together on that. And both bills I you know, I want to get in conversations with you and also hear the latest from listen that that’s going on. So I think just the dynamic and the like you say unexpected ideas, the conversations with everyone is going to be so much fun. I can’t wait.
James Strole 44:04
Yeah, for sure.
Bill Andrews 44:06
I’ve got to add, I think Rob is going to really enjoy Sandra’s book. And I mean, I didn’t do an aging research for 40 years, but most of my regimen is based on everything I’ve read from Dr. Kaufman’s book. I definitely recommend it for everybody.
James Strole 44:22
100% I agree
Robert Lufkin 44:24
her first one was great. Yeah.
Bill Andrews 44:27
And the second one is just as good if not better. I want to I want to add though that that staying healthy is not easy. People have to work hard. They have to stay proactive. It’s your healthy lifestyle healthy. A healthy life isn’t going to be handed to people on a silver platter. So So people have to read books like Dr. Kaufman’s book and actually then follow through. And I do want to I want to do an ad there’s a lot of research going on to kind of control aging and there’s a lot of the theories on what their aging isn’t. They all might be true. In fact, I’m, I think that rad Fest has the best collection of minds and trying to treat aging that I know of anywhere. And, and believe this Knightstown nonsense, but a lot of us think that the research that we want to do, because we have to test these theories, we have to test these theories, we have to show they work. And we think that’s actually not going to be very difficult to do, it’s going to be kind of easy. The big obstacle is insufficient funding. And so I’m hoping that one of the things that comes out of rat fest is if people are become aware of this, and listen to people like Bill falu, I mean, Bill is going to be talking a lot about the necessity of bringing in funding to complete a lot of this research, people need to spread the word that the science is real. There really is some really great research going on at curating from all different directions. But we need to find ways to spread the word. So it’s your peoples, the audience’s friends that are wealthy, that spent all their time complaining about getting old, saying put their money into some better, like return on investment than just financial return. That’s put it on quality of life, return on investment, that’s what’s important. We got to do that. And we also have to be getting the audience to encourage government organizations to start recognizing aging as the disease so that more grant funding can be provided to a lot of research,
James Strole 46:31
as well said. Yeah,
Joe Bardin 46:36
right. Dr. Key, Prof. Please.
Dobri Kiprov 46:39
Yes, I would like to echo what Jim said that thread puts a lot of people together and spreads information and informs people who are not scientists, but are interested in what we do. And that’s very, that’s very important. And I would like to say that bill falloon was very helpful to us through your organization, to promote our new, double blind, controlled clinical trial on plasmapheresis. In, in aging, and with, with Bill’s help and your help, we were able to together all the people that we need for this trial. I don’t know if you knew that. But I was the co founder of a new company called lifespan, which was able to find the steady speaking, funding, which is not easy this time. We found it and there is an ongoing clinical trial, talk about it. A thread fast, but without your help, we probably wouldn’t have been able to gather all the all the people that we needed.
Bill Faloon 47:41
To get together. Dr. Kiprov group approached our age reversal network that’s kind of like an offshoot of our life extension group. And those are the hardcore people that want to do something about aging. We said, well, we’ll make the announcement about your clinical trial. Hopefully, we’ll fill it up. And I’m so grateful to hear you telling me right now, we filled up in trial, because I didn’t really know, I know, you got my ad responses. But I know but build everything up for you. So
Dobri Kiprov 48:07
thank you very much. We got a lot, a lot of wonderful responses. And we’re very grateful. It’s collaboration
Bill Faloon 48:13
working together. And that’s what the idea of getting together in a meeting like rad fest where you’re talking one on one, and it makes it makes progress occur. Absolutely, yeah.
Joe Bardin 48:26
And that and that collaboration is is doesn’t stop at, you know, the people who are on stage. I mean, the people who are who attend rad fest are huge asset. Yeah, they’re some of the most, they’re hardcore, you know, like Bill said, We’re hardcore. We’re hardcore about this, about about advancing this revolution. The people who are in the audience are informed, they’re curious, they’re activated. There’s some of the people you want to know that they’re the people that you want to build your longevity, circle out of your longevity community out of everybody needs a community. Everybody needs a community of like minded people that are supporting you. It’s, it’s not fun. an immortal is longevity activist out on your own. And it’s not efficient, either. It’s not productive. It’s not efficient, trying to keep up with all even just what these guys talked about here on your own is just like, difficult. Yeah. And there’s so much more. So what about you, Liz?
Liz Parrish 49:33
Well, I of course, I’m interested in hearing everything that is going on in the community because all of us in our different silos certainly are vastly unaware of the advances being made in other places and I’m excited about that. And I’m really excited about hearing Dr. Lufkin speak about repper myosin And I’m excited about hearing Sandra Kaufman talk about all of her interventions. I always mean to do this, I’m terrible at taking pills. And I swear, if I’m going to get on anyone’s protocol, it’s going to be Dr. Kaufman. So I’m gonna do it probably this, it’ll be my new year’s resolution for 2023. But you don’t want to know me and nutraceuticals I’ve made myself sick way too many times. So she’s got the plan, and I’m gonna go with it. Bill, I always love very Bill speak. I mean, are you crazy. And I am very, I’m always interested in the translation of the parabiosis studies, from the convoys, to humans. So that’s all really exciting. But there are more speakers that I’m excited about as well. And so if you’re coming, go look at the list. And mostly what I’m excited about is meeting you, whoever you are, who is watching who are watching this and are considering coming or think you’re coming, please do come because we haven’t seen other humans for a long time. I’ve only started traveling again, in the last like six months or so. And so you know, it’s still new to me. So I’ll be really afraid to get up there. So you’re gonna have to push me. But, you know, my favorite part is just meeting the people. And so I know that this year, we won’t get a ton of hugs. But everyone knows that, like, I’m the hug queen. And I’m going to miss that. But I will be happy to see you. And I will be happy to talk to you. So if you still have some people on the fence, get excited. And at least come and see me and let’s chat. Okay, right.
James Strole 51:35
That is right. Yeah, thank you. I’d
Bill Andrews 51:37
like to speak again, because I want to say I’m in awe of every speaker, I am think we wrap this has an amazing group of people that now lose didn’t ask me not to say what I’m about to say. But I’m surprised she hasn’t said this. But she’s spearheading a really fantastic new initiative called Best Choice medicine. And I hoping she is going to be calling me about this, I am supporting her in every way I can on this, I think it’s going to be great way. If she can get succeed in which I think she will. It’ll make it so that people, especially people in the audience and stuff like that, they will be able to be able to get treatments if they have a life threatening disease or a disease that makes life not worth living. They can get a this will help them get be able to be treated with experimental treatments that the FDA would normally not allow people to get treated with. A lot of people are dying because they can’t get treated by treatments that could save their lives just because they’re experimental. But I hope Liz Parrish is going to be talking more about best choice medicines. I’m very excited about it. And just wanted to add that. Yeah, I agree.
Liz Parrish 52:45
I am I am I did mention that. But I didn’t allude to all of it, because I was trying to be somewhat secretive. But I am glad you mentioned that I am. And I did not forget. But to my I guess, virtual, my right and maybe my virtual left, I’m not sure about your screen. But Bill saloon, I always love his wrap up of everything going on in the industry. Like, if you get to see one thing, if you could only go see one thing, go see Bill falloon talk, because he’s going to tell you everything that’s happening. And if you are as smart as he is, you will actually be able to keep up and if not, you’re gonna have to watch it on video after. So yeah. But I will be talking about this trace medicine too. Thank you, Bill. I mean, Bill has been a big part of getting that going as well. And so people are getting access to technology that does not yet meet the deleterious requirements of the US FDA that are not predictive of a positive outcome in humans. That’s what we’re going to be talking about. We’re going to be talking about speeding up drug development by over a decade. And, and how you can be part of that and how you can get the dignity to take your civil rights and and use them towards a better future for our children and hopefully yourself.
Bill Faloon 54:13
is breaking down Socratic barriers that are impeding clinical trials being initiated and progressing. And a lot of people don’t realize the FDA determines what kind of clinical trial you’re allowed to do. They interfere while the trials going on. And a lot of good research never even gets up off the ground. And when it does, five to 10 years later. That means a lot of people unnecessarily dying. So it’s a project I’m working on with Liz and Bill and a number of other people to move forward clinical research without the kind of unnecessary delays the FDA is imposing on us.
Joe Bardin 54:49
Yeah, we want that. So just to give you a quick rundown, we have panels at RAD fest dedicated to stem cell a stem cell panel to We look at all the different strategies for stem cells, which there’s a lot of a citizen science panel, visionaries, panel region, regenerative medicine, practitioners, panel groundbreakers panel, therapeutic plasma exchange, industry experts and future makers. So those are all the panels that are to be going to be covered at RAD fest. We have time for a few questions. Senator, are you okay with us posting your email? Or do you want to do that a different way anyway you want? It’s fine.
Sandra Kaufmann 55:27
You know, it’s funny. I you guys were saying very expeditious and important thing. So I didn’t want to interrupt, but I’m getting flooded with emails. So I love your population. Your your your conference goers are just the most amazingly enthusiastic people in the world. So I don’t think you need to put it out there because apparently, everyone already knows what it is. Okay. But but if you don’t, it’s calpheon firstname.lastname@example.org.
Joe Bardin 55:52
A few people are asking for it. We have a question. We have a little bit of time for q&a. We have a question for Dr. Kip. Rob, can you give an update on the status of life, then? I don’t think they’re saying that written that right. Life plans planned clinical trial using Ephesus methods?
Dobri Kiprov 56:12
Yes. Yes, we’re ready to start and probably the first patients will start treatments, meat meat to the end of September. We’re collaborating with the Buck Institute for aging. We’ll have the setup for the for the placebo, the sham freezes, which I will show you how it’s done. It’s very complicated and interesting process, but it’s very elaborate. And I’ll probably have a short video to show you. And again, we’re very grateful to bill because we got a lot of responses if people are still interested, please contact us global life. races.com is where you can find all the information to how to contact us. And this is not going to be the only clinical trial we are doing hopefully we’ll be successful in the preliminary study and then we’ll be doing other more extended clinical trials so you have a chance to enroll even even if we are fully at the moment.
Joe Bardin 57:20
Thank you for that. This is a question for Dr. Lufkin. What do you think of the different combinations of rapamycin and metformin
Robert Lufkin 57:29
extremely exciting, and I’m going to be covering that at at RAD fest but but in a nutshell isn’t as amazing as rapamycin is that when it’s combined with other drugs like Metformin or a car boasts, or or certain lifestyle metabolic interventions, the effects go beyond just what is possible threat rapamycin, so we definitely going to get into that.
Joe Bardin 57:59
Okay, so we shouldn’t get off the Metformin. Okay, um, Will Dr. Kaufman’s book be published in a Kindle edition questions?
Sandra Kaufmann 58:14
So, yes, I’m working on it. Yes.
Joe Bardin 58:20
Okay, good answer. This is a long one. Jose Cordero, writes some long questions, but I think it’s a good one. Let me see here. This is for Bill and Liz, Bill Andrews and Liz. When we talked about telomerase therapy in 2015, long ago, before rad before rad Fest was created. Yes, in the before time, Liz was injected with telomerase in Colombia, what has really happened in terms of telomerase treatments.
Liz Parrish 58:59
People are getting treated with telomerase reverse transcriptase gene therapy. A lot of people think that bio Viva is treating people we actually cannot treat people outside of a clinical trial. But we do work with medical tourism companies that are doing it. I believe there’s probably several around the world we deal with one because it’s really important that we use human data in order to push drugs forward. So if you know of a clinic that is doing human gene therapy, please send them to us so we can assess the data, take a look at it and understand better what it means in the future. But I am doing I am alive and well and other people have shown great interest in that therapy and I imagine a lot of people will take it once it’s affordable. But I do hear tell that people are taking that gene therapy.
Bill Andrews 59:56
Okay. Let me let me add there’s At least four companies that I know of that are really putting a lot enthusiastic effort into trying to make gene therapy more available and stuff. And that includes like bio Viva especially, and but also includes Maria Glasgow’s company and Spain, includes Mike fossils company, teal teal site. It’s in the United States, I can’t remember exactly where. And it includes, you know, my research trying to try to get things off the ground to get some treatments going. But the big limit in everybody’s case is the funding. Okay. So again, we come back to the funding, if there was somehow more funding available to get these gene therapies going, there would be a lot more testing of gene therapy, telomerase gene therapy and other gene therapies to treat aging.
James Strole 1:00:50
Yeah, I’m glad you said that, again, valid, because everybody that can work on this issue of funding the the better and get the word out of what’s needed. Because we can get things like you said, there’s so many great innovations right on the table now that can be expedited. And and we can have have at our disposal if we just get the funding. And, you know, the Coalition for radical life extension is helping right now. And this is bio V, this program to get funding for this gene therapy for dementia. And so anybody that we’re working to help raise funds for that. We’re one of the organizations doing that. And that’s, of course, the komische, for those who don’t know, is the producer of RAD fest. But anybody else that can this, listen to this, and has knows anybody that would be interested in helping out that level, and maybe being a part of the study with Bobby booboo grant and contact us at the Coalition for radical life extension office. And we would appreciate that, because we want to push this forward. Getting your funding for everybody, but we want to break that we want to break that glass ceiling right? And get things really moving. So thank you.
Liz Parrish 1:02:04
Yeah, so yeah, absolutely. So here, if you’re really interested in how do these therapies work, but you don’t want to be a candidate help other people be candidates, because they have life threatening diseases, they have terminal illnesses, and the more people that come forward to actually donate to their treatments, the more likely you are to see these treatments in your lifetime. So you know, definitely please donate it’s it’s one of actually the biggest impacts that you can make on your future health is human data. That is what will get a drug into clinical trials. That is what will push the FDA towards having to approve these therapies for clinical trials and getting them to you more quickly.
James Strole 1:02:46
It’s a win win for everybody.
Joe Bardin 1:02:48
Yeah, so the coalition is a nonprofit, so you can make a contribution to the nonprofit that’s right to support vital vivos work with gene therapy on this dementia study.
James Strole 1:02:57
Yeah, we’re actually in the process of collecting those funds so that we can distribute them and get this work done.
Joe Bardin 1:03:03
So okay, so here’s a question about stress. This is for everybody. How, how much how big is the impact of stress on Aging, what percentage of aging is due to stress,
Bill Andrews 1:03:19
psychological stress, there’s all of them, but psychological stress is is a big impact. And I recommend people read Elisa epals book that discusses that a lot. And she’s a probably top leader in the field, on the role of stress and aging.
Joe Bardin 1:03:43
Very good. Great. Other comments, anybody else have something on stress? That’s what pretty relaxed about it?
Liz Parrish 1:03:50
Well, I imagine that I would look 20 If I wasn’t so stressed out about cure your age.
James Strole 1:03:58
We know that failure, we know that feeling.
Bill Faloon 1:04:00
That’s the dilemma we’re in if we’re going to force the science forward, it involves some psychological stress on all of us. And we make that sacrifice for the benefit of humanity. That’s right. Yeah, we could sit back and relax and not have any stress but then there’d be no advancement in science. So just try to mitigate it wherever you can.
James Strole 1:04:21
Yeah, but the more we move together what I’ve also experienced the more we move together the the we’re able to use a term distribute this stress out so you know when that’s what happens I see this happen at RAD fest, people come there sometimes very stressful, and then they start finding out oh, you know, I see this and I can do for my life or or others are are feeling like I do or or and they get inspired and then they get you know, helped alleviate that stress. So it’s kind of we we spread this out. So no one is the impact is of no one given person. And this is what we want to do too. This is another reason for us to and because it’s very encouraging for me I’m It helps helps me rest better at night when I know a lot of people are working on this, and a lot of people are engaged.
Liz Parrish 1:05:06
And I think like David Koch would say, you know, go and find your tribe, right. So we’re all people on this call that have to push into new territories, and we have to meet new people and turn people on to new ideas. And that is stressful, and we get attacked, and it is what it is. But when you go to read fest, you kind of meet your tribe, you meet a bunch of like, they’re the it’s just a group of the nicest people I have ever met. Yeah. And it I mean, if nothing else, I, I do believe it will extend your lifespan just to meet those people and have them in your life. And we don’t really get to do that, you know, so I only get to do that once a year. And I get to go and see everyone, and it’s kind of like this extended family that’s rooting for you, and you’re rooting for them. I mean, what is longevity? If we don’t have each other to drive each other nuts? Right. You know, that’s the that’s the fun of it. And like, I mean, they are like genuinely nice people. So you know, if you’re missing good people in your life, you know, David package always said that you have to have your tribe. Yeah, you know, you. And, you know, these are people that you never met. And, you know, I at RAD fest, you know, you’re going to find a whole bunch of your best friends who are actually rooting for you to live a longer, healthier life that you didn’t even know.
James Strole 1:06:28
Yeah, yeah. So true. Thank you for saying that is, you know, Dr. JioFi, won’t be sticking it rat best. And I was talking to her last night, she actually is involved in another really expensive longevity company now. And we had a great talk. And she was saying to me, she was saying, well, to bring an eyeball, she say thanking us for for bringing this family chemistry, you might say she’s way she worded it to rad fest. This up, I was doing a family that other people can actually feel this out, excuse me, this camaraderie together, this connection trumped up about this. Now, I might start, I might start weeping at any moment. But it was touching to hear because she was really elaborate about the sense that she was she said, there’s no event that she’s ever been to our science event that has this what Liz was talking about this feeling of family tribe, or tribal consciousness, where do you want to call it, that people really have this feeling about helping each other, and they’re all really engaged with each other in a way to they want to collaborate, they, they have a bigger purpose in life. And I’ve always said, to have a big purpose really can motivate us in ways that we’ve never never felt before. And that’s a brand I have, we have that purpose to live like all of you guys do. And so we find this collaboration, deepen our own guts together. And I think that’s vital to have this kind of feeling that that we have created and, and it’s belting all the time. I mean, we’re getting people contact us and, and it’s really why they want to be at RAD fest, a lot of them because they want to, you know, they want to feel that camaraderie, they want to feel that connection to along with getting all the great scientific information.
Joe Bardin 1:08:02
That’s right, I think that’s a good guy, everybody have the offer that which is for your along with your regular registration, you can get a register a friend or loved one, or your whole tribe, you can register your whole tribe at $200 less. So if you register for the normal amount, which is 851, you can register your friends for 650, as many people as you want. So please take advantage of that. And we and I want to thank the panel you guys did fantastic. Fantastic. And this is the this is the energy and the spirit of RAD fest as well as the science. It’s the science in the spirit.
Bill Faloon 1:08:47
I’m willing to stay around and try to answer some questions. I see. There’s 10 people have questions. If I can answer some of them. I’ll be here.
Sandra Kaufmann 1:08:53
Actually, I have a question. Why 851? Oh, no, no, that makes no sense at all. 851?
Joe Bardin 1:09:04
Well, you know, I don’t know. That’s a tough question, Sandra. I think it’s just the pricing structure that we have
Sandra Kaufmann 1:09:11
$1 is going to make or break. Yeah, it seems a little strange.
Joe Bardin 1:09:14
You know, most people pay with credit cards anyway. So it doesn’t really matter. You know,
Sandra Kaufmann 1:09:18
actually give them $201 off.
Joe Bardin 1:09:21
We just can’t go that far. That’s crazy. That’s crazy talk.
James Strole 1:09:26
It has given us give it away way too much away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to thank everybody. Again, have you guys presented and again, looking forward to seeing your read fast and thank everybody online. And yes, be that rad fest everybody that’s listening and bring a friend. I’m looking forward to personally meeting you and having great conversations. So let’s do it.
Joe Bardin 1:09:49
Thanks, everybody. All right. Thank
James Strole 1:09:50
you so much.
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